In this episode of Climate Debrief, Angela Wheeler speaks with Dr. Sharon Camp, Senior Education Advisor for the CO₂ Coalition, about her article “Muddling the Judiciary’s Understanding of Science”. Dr. Camp discusses the scientific method, the role of models and consensus in climate science, and why she believes judges should rely on rigorous evidence when evaluating scientific claims. The conversation also explores science education, critical thinking, and the growing influence of climate policy in the courtroom.